"It's not just cars, a lot of the energy usage is other major industrial uses and you want to make sure you provide them incentives to convert to cleaner energy. I think for me, the biggest issue is that you want to make sure that those using fossil fuels are paying for the actual cost of those fuels."
"There's a tremendous cost to the environment and to our communities of using fossil fuels. You want to make sure those costs are incorporated, the costs of the product."